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Answering your questions on young people’s mental health

Dr Naveen Puri discusses the link between the mental health of a parent and their child and how to support both.

Transcript

Who are you?

Hello, I'm Naveen Puri.

I'm a GP by background.

I work for Bupa as a medical director

for the insurance business.

Previously, I've worked for Bupa in their health clinics

business as a GP.

How can being a parent affect your mental health?

I think it's important to recognise

that when you are a parent, your mental health can go

through ups and downs because there's a concern not just

for your own mental health and wellbeing,

but also the mental health and wellbeing of your child

as well.

What can I do if my child’s mental health is affecting my own mental health?_

I think it's really important that you recognise

that your mental health takes precedent,

and obviously you'll have a concern

for your child's mental health too, but

unless you're looking after yourself,

you're not in a position to look

after your child's mental health as well.

So what I would say is be sure to tend

to your own mental health needs

and seek the appropriate support, be that reaching out

to your spouse, reaching out to your GP or a friend

or a colleague, and then you're in a much better position

to help your child with any challenges they may be facing

with their mental health as well.

As a man, how can I take care of my own mental health while supporting my child?

I think it's important that we recognise as men,

often conversations around mental health are not very easy

for us to have, and we're not commonly having

them are we, in honesty.

So then to sort of have the conversation with your child

or somebody at home who you're concerned about

can be even more challenging.

What I'd say is use this

as an opportunity to upskill yourself.

Maybe this is the time

that you learn about your own mental health and wellbeing,

and use that as an opportunity then

to help your child as well.

So things like informing yourself by reading online,

looking at resources that Bupa might offer, for example,

can be a really good way to upskill yourself

around your own mental health,

and then have an understanding

and insight into what you might want to tackle with a child

or young person at home as well.

How can I balance my work responsibilities with my child’s mental health needs?

I think you'll often find that it's always the case

that things at work get really busy just

as things at home get really busy and fraught as well.

And these things never time themselves well do they?

So be really kind to yourself

and recognise that there'll be two kinds of stresses

that I think you might find at work, those

that you can anticipate.

So things like deadlines, things that you need

to work towards, and those that are unexpected.

And the same probably happens at home as well.

There might be things that you know are going to happen at home, such

as your child, having appointments with a doctor

or with a counsellor or a therapist,

but also other things that you can't anticipate,

like being called by the school,

even having a call from your child in distress.

And so give yourself the flexibility

to accommodate the things you can plan for,

but also give yourself the flexibility in your diary

to be able to manage the things that come up unexpectedly,

either at work or in the home as well.

What can affect a young person’s mental health?

There are a whole host of things

that can affect a young person's mental health in modern

life from the kind of things

that would've affected our mental health, like pressures

around school, friendships, relationships, growing up,

and going through puberty

to more modern things like social media, body image

pressures that children may be under

because of what they see on Instagram

or other social platforms as well.

It's important that we recognise that there are a whole host

of things that can affect an individual

and really inquiring about them

with your child gives you much more

of an insight into what's affecting them rather than second

guessing what things out there might be causing their mental

health not to be as optimal as it could be.

What are some common signs that my child might be struggling with their mental health?

I think what's really important to recognise is that you

as a parent will have a sense of what's normal

for your child, and so maybe use that as a baseline

to consider what might be different

or significant from that perspective.

Sometimes when children have mental health issues,

they can change in their mood,

so they may become more withdrawn, less talkative,

more quieter than normal.

They may become easy to snap,

perhaps becoming more argumentative

or more angry at smaller things

that previously would not have affected them.

Things like changes in diet can also be a factor as well.

Some children may eat less than normal, some may take

to food for comfort and therefore eat more.

You might find their sleep

is interrupted or affected as well.

They may be sleeping a lot later at night

or having more issue waking up in the morning as well.

So what I'd say is consider what's normal for your child

and then if there's a change from that, use that as a basis

to consider whether something might

not be quite as it should be.

I'd also say alongside that though, just

to complicate the picture, is that your child is going

through quite a lot as is, such as going through puberty,

going through exams at school, relationship issues,

all those sorts of things as well,

and they themselves can cause a change in their mood

and how they present as well.

So maybe try and unpick over a period

of time rather than making a snap judgement around

what is normal for them and not, and if you have got a concern,

maybe that's the basis to have a conversation.

What are the long-term implications of unmet childhood mental health needs?

We know increasingly as a medical community,

that actually when we don't deal with things early on,

they can have an impact long-term.

And that's true for both physical health issues as well

as mental health ones as well.

I also want to say that as a parent,

please don't burden yourself with having

to manage everything when a child is young,

because actually you are doing the best you possibly can.

And even by watching content like this,

you are already seeking to educate yourself

what could be a problem further down the line.

We do recognise that when we don't deal

with things early on, they can have

an impact further down the line.

So things like not talking about your mental health

as a child mean that when you're an adult,

it can be even more difficult to start those conversations

and lean into being vulnerable.

So if you can encourage those conversations,

or indeed role model those for your child,

it just gives them the vocabulary

and the ability to see what that looks like.

So when they're older, it becomes a skill

they're much more attuned to.

How can I support my child’s mental health on a day to day basis?

I think it's important to remember

that actually day-to-day, you can role model

what good attention to your mental health looks like.

So if it's the kind

of thing which is openly spoken about in the household

and done so responsibly,

but also in a calm manner without judgement ,

that really sets a tone

that I think your child would respond to.

I often find that when parents create a safe space

to have a conversation with their children, let's say it's

during a task like washing up the dishes where one

of you is doing the washing, the other's doing the drying,

or maybe some gardening,

or having a walk in the park, that can be a really good way

to have those kinds of conversations.

Sometimes direct eye contact can be quite intimidating

for children, so standing side by side with them

or being in different parts of the room,

doing something menial, like washing the dishes

or drying the dishes can be a really good way

and a safe space to then sort of lean into conversations

that are more casual and more kind

of spontaneous rather than formalise where you sit down

and have this very serious dialogue

around something which the child might feel quite

uncomfortable talking about.

How can I approach my child about their mental health?

The useful framework we have

that we often encourage parents to use

with their children is an acronym, which is heard, H-E-A-R-D.

The H stands for how are you?

That's a nice open question

to get a conversation going with your child.

The E stands for empathise.

We want you to be able to show your child

that you are listening to what they're saying,

but also sympathetic to it

and not judging what they're saying as well.

A is an extension of that which is acknowledged.

So you want to acknowledge what your child is saying,

and sometimes the R, which is reflect can be a good way

to acknowledge what they're saying to you.

So listen to what they're saying to you

and maybe play it back to them in their own language

or in your own sort of tone of phrase,

so they you've truly received it.

I think this is also a good opportunity

to demonstrate you aren't judging them either.

So if you're sitting there listening

and playing back to them what they've said without putting

your own spin on it or judgement on it,

that can be really powerful for your child as well.

And then the D, final part of it is direction.

And this is not where you tell them what to do

or jump in with the solution, which I think is quite natural

for us as older people,

but actually asking them where they want to go

with the conversation and what's next.

Is it a follow-up conversation?

Is it to go away

and look something up and come back with them?

Is it to have a conversation again, whatever they want next.

And whatever you feel could be helpful

is what the direction will be.

So hopefully that provides you with a useful framework

for those conversations.

How do I explain the importance of mental health to a child?

I think it's really important that we educate our children

that mental health can affect them just like a physical

health condition can as well.

So just like you might have a sore knee

or a heart issue, you can also have an issue with your brain

and some of the chemicals that swirl around that

and can in affect your mood, your anxiety levels,

those kinds of things as well.

Children should be aware that when their brain isn't working

as it should, it can also cause physical symptoms too.

So if you are feeling low

or depressed for example, you might be more

sleepy or want to eat more.

You might feel like your tummy's a bit more sort

of slower than normal as well, which can lead

to abdominal pains and things of that nature.

If you've got anxiety, it can cause you

to be a bit more sweaty, your heart racing a bit more,

you palm's feeling a bit more clammy.

And so I think an understanding

that when the brain isn't working, it can have impacts

around the whole body, can be a useful way to start

that conversation with your children.

How can I talk to my child about their mental wellbeing?

I think for some men it's really difficult

to speak about mental health and you know what, use that

as an opportunity to be honest with your child

because actually if they're finding it difficult, seeing

how hard it is for you gives them

permission to find it hard.

But you can also both find

a solution for it together as well.

So maybe leaning into the

conversation and saying, you know what,

I'm really concerned about you,

but I'm finding this really difficult to talk about.

Or, this is the kind of thing I really struggle with,

but I'd really be interested to hear how you are doing

can be really good ways, I think, to start

that conversation with a child.

You might also find that you want to try

and fix things quickly and have a conversation

and get to the bottom of what's going on,

and that'd be the end of it, but actually

sometimes it's a long game.

So maybe just planting seeds regularly, having

that conversation every weekend

or every time you watch football together,

or go for a walk together or wash the dishes together.

There might be any number of ways that you are interacting

with them and to normalise conversations

around mental health in those things you do day to day

and looking at it as a long-term thing you want

to invest in rather than a quick fix can be the way forward

sometimes.

What should I do if my child won’t open up about their mental health?

If your child isn't opening up about their mental health,

I can only imagine how stressful that must be for you,

because the last thing you want is for your child

to be getting more and more distressed

and not having an outlet for that.

So let's think about a couple of things

that might be useful for you.

The first is be really kind to yourself

and recognise you may not be able

to fix a problem in one conversation alone.

It may be the case you have

to have the conversation on many occasions,

and by planting the seed

and at least making them aware that you are open

to the conversation means that when they want to speak

to you, they know you are available for that.

You might also want to signpost them to resources

that maybe they could look at on their own basis.

Things on the internet, for example, JAAQ,

Bupa resources, things of that nature.

There are also charities out there

who produce content specifically for young people.

So it's written in a language

and in a manner that's really accessible to them.

Short videos, that kind of a thing, which might be more

to their liking than having a conversation with mum or dad.

I'd also say that sometimes children find it easy

to communicate with parents in a way

that we don't necessarily consider natural for us.

So text message or leaving a

note for them or things like that.

Sometimes just leaving a note

to say something quite routine like that's where

the cornflakes is, or whatever, alongside how are you doing,

by the way, can be a nice way to start that conversation

or a text message where you're messaging about something

quite routine, but also insert in there a

comment around their wellbeing.

So think about it as a multi-pronged approach.

You might want to take several approaches rather than a one

size fits all,

and hopefully you'll find one way that breaks through.

What should I do in a crisis situation?

In a crisis, it's really important you remember there is

lots of support out there for you.

So let me talk you through what that support looks like.

The first thing to say is that if you're registered

with a GP practice, you can reach out to them at any time.

And if it's out of hours, which is often the case,

when these things crop up,

then remember your practice does have an out

of hour service it's connected to as well.

If you call your usual practice number, you'll be connected

to that automatically if you call them

outside of surgery hours.

The other option, if you aren't able

to call your own practice or aren't aware of their number,

is to call 111.

That's a non-emergency medical number where you're triaged

by somebody who will prioritise the urgency of your call.

If it's deemed to be urgent,

they'll either put you in a queue to be spoken to

by a doctor relatively quickly, or if they feel it's urgent

or an emergency and can't wait for a doctor

to call you back, they'll redirect you to 999.

And so that's my next bit of advice.

Remember, you can make use of 999

for an emergency situation

where an operator will talk you through what you need to do.

Sometimes that might be to wait at home while they send help

to you via an ambulance or a first responder.

Other times it might be to go to an accident and emergency

and be seen by someone there.

And then the last thing to say is you can make your way

straight to an A&E if you want to

and if you feel that your situation warrants that.

A&E again will take some details from you

and give you a level of priority based on your need.

And they'll always have mental health support available

should that be required as well.

As a parent how best can I cope with a mental health crisis?

I think as a man, it's really important you're kind

to yourself because there isn't a one size fits all approach

here at all, but rather, you'll have to really dictate

what you do depending on the situation you find yourself in.

Sometimes as men, we can find

that we have lots of things to contend with.

You might have some work responsibilities,

you might have other things to contend with in the home,

and so maybe making a list of priorities in your head

and maybe delegating things

elsewhere could be really useful.

So for example, if you've got things at work

that need tending to maybe handing them over to a colleague

or speaking to your boss to get them addressed

could be useful. If you've got other responsibilities in the

house, like other children to tend

to, maybe recruiting your partner, a relative

or a friendly neighbour to help you out could be helpful

and helping you prioritise the child

that you have to tend for, for

now. I'd also say that sometimes you have

to tend to your own needs as well.

You can't be a good dad and a good carer if

you can't recognise that

you have to look after yourself first.

So don't neglect to look

after your own wellbeing, your own sleep,

your own dietary needs, your own hydration,

those sorts of very simple things.

Thinking as clearly as you possibly can,

not making decisions in haste,

not driving when you are particularly stressed or wound up.

Those sorts of very simple small things can make a big

difference in the long term as well.

How can I support my children if their sibling suffers with mental health challenges?

I think it's very important that you recognise

that the impact of your child's mental health condition can

impact their siblings as well as you've rightly recognised.

And so what I'd say is a couple of things on this.

Your children need a space to be able to express themselves.

And so not just the child who's affected

by the mental health condition,

but also those that are not affected

and are possibly vicariously impacted by that.

Your child who has the mental health condition should be

able to express to you any concerns and needs they have

and any anxieties and worries

and fears they have around their condition,

but also your children that aren't

directly impacted should be able to as well.

And sometimes it is the case

that the responses your children give you

might be in conflict.

So the children that are otherwise well may almost resent

the child that has the mental health condition

because of the impact it has on them or

because the attention you are providing to that one child.

And it's okay for them to be able to express that.

Expressing that in front of the child

that has the condition though probably

isn't going to be the best way forward.

And so don't have these conversations together.

Maybe carve out time separately

to have those conversations on a one-to-one

basis, if that could be helpful.

There is also power in having collections, sorry,

conversations collectively.

So sitting around a dinner table

or sitting on the sofas together,

watching a film together can be a nice way

to bring the family together, but recognise there'll be

times where you have to have conversations separately

and other times where bringing them all together can also be

helpful as well.

Should I encourage my child to talk to other members of the family about their mental health?

The short answer is yes, absolutely.

The more people your child is speaking to, the better

for them because they'll get a range

of support from different people,

but also a range of different

perspectives and response as well.

The nice thing about a family unit is

that there are many people that the child could speak to,

from grandparents, to uncles and aunts, to a trusted cousin,

and even to their own siblings actually as well.

And the relation they have with them

and also the insights that they can get from each other can

be quite unique and quite

different to what you might provide.

So if they're able to have those

conversations, absolutely encourage them.

I think they'll be to your advantage as well as

to your child's as well.

How do I approach other members of my family for help?

It's often the case that other members in your family have

probably gone through their own struggles and trials

and tribulations, and actually there's a lot of sympathy

amongst people, for other people

that go through things as well.

It might not be the same kinds of things,

but actually if you reach out

to other family members to say, you know what?

We are really struggling with this aspect of this child.

There could be a whole outpouring of sympathy

and support that comes your way without you even having

to invite it. Sometimes

also, just being really direct about

what challenges you're facing gives people the

opportunity to step into that.

So they might offer you a lift or offer to cook a meal,

or things of that nature, which can really just take away

some of the things you are concerned

about or worried about as well.

You might also have members of your family

who you can directly reach out to

for support and help as well.

You'll know who they are, and so if you've got a parent,

a sibling, somebody in the family who can be helpful

and is willing to help, then maybe consider

making use of them as well.

I wish you well with it, I know it's not easy to ask

for help, but remember you can always pay it forward in the

future as well, so by helping them out,

rather having them help you out on this occasion means

that you are then able to help them out

and be helpful to them in the future as well.

How can I balance the needs of my work whilst supporting my child and family?

While I recognise that work is really important,

remember your family and your child

certainly come before that.

Sometimes it takes things like this

to make us reassess our priorities

and recognise that that is the priority, and

therefore just giving yourself permission to make

that your number one focus means

that you can then put into place all the things

you have to make that happen.

Don't feel afraid to have the conversation at work.

I know it's an uncomfortable thing to discuss with a boss

or with colleagues, but actually sometimes you find that

by opening the conversation up, they open up

to you about some of the challenges

and issues they faced as well.

Your line manager or boss may well have come across

with other colleagues and

therefore may also already have

a template for how to manage this.

And so while you are thinking, gosh, how are they going

to respond to me making this request?

It may be something they've already been through themselves

as a line manager or boss, if not professionally,

maybe even personally, or possibly even both.

I'd also say that there is also scope to consider

how you might offer solutions to work.

You might say to them, can I work flexibly on this

or could I extend this deadline,

or things of that nature too.

Sometimes by being open

and transparent with the workplace means

that they can be much more helpful

to you in a timely manner rather than being forced to

make adjustments for you at the last minute,

which might impact what they're looking to achieve as well.

So working with your employer and being open

and as transparent as you can might be the way forward here.

Is it okay to speak openly to friends about my child's mental health condition and needs?

The short answer is yes,

but let me give that a bit more flavour

because I think it's important you think about some

other considerations as well.

Your child would also have a sense of who they want

to know about their mental health condition

and what needs they may be

contending with at this time as well.

So if you're going to speak to, let's say, their parents

of one of your child's friends, then maybe

that isn't the best person, or if they are the right person

to maybe make clear that actually what you're discussing

with them is confidential so that it doesn't get fed back

to your child's friend inadvertently.

So conversations are always a good thing.

I'd certainly encourage you to have them,

but maybe just think about your child's confidentiality

and their own wishes around who they might want

to know about their condition as well.

Should I speak openly to colleagues about my child's mental health condition?

You'll have a sense of which colleagues you can trust

and have open conversations with.

And so my simple answer would be absolutely feel free

to open up to them and have those conversations

if they could be helpful to you.

It's often the case that when you open about your own

problems, your colleagues are then

able to do the same with you as well.

And sometimes there's some really useful knowledge and tips

and advice around how to approach these situations

that can be shared in those scenarios as well.

Sometimes in workplaces, there are networks, parent

and carer networks, for example,

that can be really useful forums to this as well,

where people specifically want to come together

to discuss the challenges of parenthood.

In our own organisation,

we have a network which is thriving.

I will say that it's usually attended a lot by women,

but there's no reason why fathers and dads

and men can't be there as well.

So feel free to make use of these networks

because they can be really helpful.

My child's mental health condition is impacting my relationship. What can I do?

I think it's really important to recognise

that when a child is affected by a mental health condition,

it has an absolutely huge impact on the family

and especially on the child's parents as well,

or on you as a parent and your partner.

So be really kind to yourself

and first of all, give yourself permission to recognise that

that's a well-known phenomenon.

What I'd also say is that as a experience, this is something

that was you and your partner are uniquely experiencing

compared to everybody else around you.

You both have that same child's interest at heart.

You want the best for them,

and actually, while it can be a source of real conflict

and strife between you, it can also be a source

of bringing you together as well

because you've both got a common goal in this regard.

Make time to have a conversation around this

because actually if you are at loggerheads, that's not going

to help either of you and it

certainly isn't going to help your child.

Very easy for me to say I know,

but making time

with the conversation really will be very, very fruitful.

Maybe have a conversation on a five by five basis.

So give your partner five minutes to have a round

around whatever their concerns may be, and then

after listening to them without interruption,

you give yourself five minutes to have a rant around

what your concerns are.

That way you put into the open without any conflict

or challenge, what each other's perspectives are.

You're both made to listen to each other

and really understand what's going on,

and then you can start to forge a solution from

that point onwards.

So have an open dialogue.

Be kind to yourself and often recognise this is a very common phenomenon.

Whenever a child is impacted, actually their parents

or carers often are as well.

And by being open about it, you can then start

to chart a way forward and I wish you the very best of luck

with it as well.

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